If there was any credence to Smith's story, the entire text would have been given as it was originally intended to have been spoken, using the original information, likely given to Smith in modern English of his own day, in order to relay the message in a currently clear and understandable manner. This has not been repeated as of the updating of this webpage in March 2014. And also upon the servants and upon the handmaids in those days will I pour out my spirit. 21. They "came to the twenty ninth verse of in the fifth chapter of John…and while we meditated upon these thing the Lord touched the eyes of our understandings and they were opened and the glory of the lord shone round about…" (josephsmithpapers.org) Why were a dozen men sitting around watching Joseph and Sidney translate the bible? What was deposited with the gold plates? In the magic world view, the equinox was a time when the earth could be expected to experience the introduction of "broad cultural movements and religious ideas.". And he schal conuerte the herte of fadris to sones, and the herte of sones to fadris of hem, lest perauenture Y come, and smyte the erthe with curs. 1803 Royalton, Vermont (for a few months), 1800 Census listing Tunbridge's total population. There have been many translations into many languages. A Jeremiah Bissel is listed as a town clerk of Norwich, Windsor County, Vermont, in "The Vermont Register and Almanack, 1819." . Nonetheless, Mormon apologists insist that all of the above correlations are irrelevant. Moroni buried his treasure long ago to conceal it from those who were about to kill him. Given that each language has its own unique form of expression, why would an angel not speak in the current language applicable to the person with whom he is speaking? Ask the children to listen to John’s description of Moroni’s message and how he gave it. Section 110, also not included until 1876 but written in 1836, includes in verse 15, the same words as the KJV, in respect to "keys." You may want to take a turn yourself. There is no reference to Priesthood in any translation and the rest of the changes do not alter or clarify anything. Here's a replica of the small, humble Smith home that Emer claims to have found the story in Prencis' library. Then after 1830 they started calling it a visitation. $ 4.50. Finally, for those who shared a magic world view, the times and seasons of Smith's September 1823 visitation fulfilled instructions for spirit incantation by Scot, Agrippa, pseudo-Agrippa, Sibly, Erra Pater, Barrett and other occult works in frequent circulation in early America (see chs. Joel 2:28-32 (5 verses quoted exactly). 22. During his initial visit with Joseph Smith, Moroni informed Joseph that his sins had been forgiven and that he had been chosen to bring forth the sacred record of the ancient Americans. Lesson 3: The Angel Moroni Visits Joseph Smith, Primary 5: Doctrine and Covenants and Church History, “Teaching the Scriptural and Historical Accounts,”. It is illogical that an angel would do anything other than speak to someone in their own current language if not using his own dialect. Did each claim their messenger spoke in the manner of their old scripture if an intermediate language pattern had been used? (FAIR's website, March 26, 2014)). This translation was updated (possibly also largely retranslated) by Bishop Challoner in 1750 and with later updates, was the standard Catholic English Language Bible until 1941. We have, however, discussed this issue with several devout members to get their input. For marck, the daye commeth that shall burne as an oue: and all the proude, yee and all soch as do wickednesse, shalbe straw: and the daye that is for to come, shall burne the vp (sayeth the LORDE of hoostes) so that it shal leaue them nether rote ner braunch. There is a phenomenon that many people experience that scientists call sleep paralysis. I lay musing on the singularity of the scene, and marveling greatly at what had been told to me by this extraordinary messenger; when, in the midst of my meditation, I suddenly discovered that my room was again beginning to get lighted, and in an instant, as it were, the same heavenly messenger was again by my bedside. Retaining the Early Modern English form of speech in modern times has simply occurred as the Bible was not updated into modern English for such a long time. Why did Joseph Smith pray on the night of 21 September 1823? Astrological guides specified that Sunday night was the only night of the week ruled by Jupiter. Lo! Showing Joseph in bed by himself gazing at Moroni is not accurate as he would have had two brothers sleeping in the bed with him. How has your membership in the Church affected how people think of you? Aside from verses concerning a prophet emanating from Jesse, a narrative about animals not being dangerous in the millennium and a gathering of Israel, it includes the Lord utterly destroying the tongue of the Egyptian sea so the seven streams could be walked over "dryshod". The Millennial Star editors had this to say: "The writer, it will be perceived, evidently had an idea that angels are feminine, by the manner in which the one spoken of is referred to. That includes the sun being turned to darkness and the moon to blood. Hand one of the children the “microphone” and have him or her give a message into it. Whilst Joseph Smith's angel may very well deserve to be called Nephi, we will here use the name of Moroni, to be consistent with the name used by the Mormon Church today. See the section below: "Could there be other possible explanations?". Dialogue, A Journal of Mormon Thought, vol 36, Number 4, Winter 2003, Clay L Chandler. Emphasize to the children the importance of the revelations Joseph Smith received and the continued revelation we receive from the Lord through our living prophet today. Although we don't know what his voice was like, even a regular man speaking with a mortal voice in the room above Joseph's bed for the whole of the night, would have awoken everyone upstairs and in the small Smith house, possibly everyone. Readers must decide whether it is academically legitimate (or consistent with faith) to inflate standards of evidence to "prove" something "faith-promoting," while throwing out those standards in order to dismiss unwelcome evidence. PURPOSE. He commenced, and again related the very same things which he had done at his first visit. There is no correlation which substantiates any reason for such changes to be made. By this time, so deep were the impressions made on my mind, that sleep had fled from my eyes, and I lay overwhelmed in astonishment at what I had both seen and heard. January 14, 2021 by Sam Brunson. With six brothers all sharing one room, Joseph would have had two brothers sleeping in the very same bed as he slept in. The content of all 40 or so scriptures is very useful in developing Many researchers have posited connections between potentially influential events, stories, or books from Joseph Smith's day and the writing of the Book of Mormon. It proves and means absolutely nothing worthwhile. Simply put, if you were one of six brothers all sleeping in the same room and your youngest brother sleeping in your very own bed, who believed in magic and finding treasure by looking into stones, told you that an angel appeared in your room last night not once, but three times and lit up the entire room as bright as the noonday sun with his countenance as bright as lightning and conversed with him for almost the entire night whilst you and your other five brothers snoozed away for this entire time - would you believe it? It seemed like they were starting this transparency with the August 2009 Ensign, but then they resorted to the old, familiar image in the October 2011 Ensign. For those interested in exploring contemporary influences on Joseph Smith and the Book of Mormon, this account raises several intriguing questions. Link is here. In his famous King Follett Sermon on 7th April 1844, Smith quoted the original KJV text: Despite claiming Moroni changed Malachi, Smith did not alter it in his "inspired" revision nor did he use it in a direct quotation in a major sermon to a claimed 20,000 saints, years later. ", By all Mormon accounts, Smith met with this personage who was once a human in possession of gold plates. According to the account (written in 1838), Joseph was praying at night on September 21, 1823, when a light appeared in his bedroom and “continued to increase until the room was lighter There is at least one instance where this subject has been the source of considerable scholarly investigation. Moroni's altered words changed the meaning entirely so if the original was so wrong, why did he quote it as if it was correct and not use Moroni's words? Point out that Moroni’s message was very important to Joseph Smith. For example the KJV reads in verse 31, "the great and terrible day" and yet the New American Standard Bible reads "the great and awesome day." Personally, I can consider the visitation of Moroni during the night to be more of a vision than a meeting as we might understand it, physically speaking. If the Church teaches that this is a tangible event, then we need to recognize the problems associated with it. Lo! Such news would surely have been a topic of conversation in a small community. Apparently, in 1868, the Millennial Star received a copy of a vision had by one Thomas C. Prencis. Nearly three and a half years passed between the First Vision, when Heavenly Father and Jesus Christ appeared to Joseph Smith, and the angel Moroni’s first visit to Joseph. the more we deceive ourselves. Many more translations began to appear during the Reformation. Reginald Scot's instructions specified that spirit conjurations should begin "about eleven a clock at night." Many angels at the dedication of the Kirtland Temple, March 27, 1836. There are scriptural accounts of God intervening in people's lives without their permission, but this topic is too big for this section to discuss. So we are left to conclude that we will never know what these additional unmentioned explanations of scripture actually were. Moroni also told Joseph that a book written on gold plates buried in the hillside contained the fulness of the gospel and a history of the ancient inhabitants of the American continent. He lived about A.D. 400 and wrote some of the Book of Mormon. This is the version reported in the Millennial Star, but dated four years earlier. As the clock struck three, I arose from my bed and prepared my team, paid my fare and set out on my journey, without making known to the family the singular occurrence of the preceding night, though my mind was so truly fixed on what had past, that it was with much irregularity that I proceeded on my journey. In the Pearl of Great Price, Joseph Smith - History. Further inquiry may be in order. How. Part of Malachi 3. If Smith made it up in 1838, he forgot that he had kept his inspired revision the same as the KJV and that it wouldn't match. It had been about three and a half years since the First Vision. It is appropriate that we publish to you, today and tomorrow, the account from Lucy Mack Smith’s history of her son, portions of the chapters concerning the initial visits of the Angel Moroni to the young, seventeen-year-old Joseph Smith. A few years after this published account, Smith precisely described the final moments of what happened on 22 September: "When immediately after the heavenly messenger had ascended from me the third time, the cock crew, and I found that day was approaching so that our interviews must have occupied the whole of that night." Surely there were better things to talk about than this? Apparently so. And if it was, could it have impacted the development of his own story? If Smith could remember in 1838, what Moroni supposedly said, word for word in 1823; how is it that in 1830-32, half way between those events, when he was "inspired" to correct the KJV, he forgot Moroni's corrected version and left the verses exactly as they appear in the KJV? If it's a matter of testing the faith of members, why was there a need to provide witnesses for the golden plates but not heavenly visitations? Almost all artwork depicting the visit of Moroni to Joseph Smith in his bedroom shows only Joseph and Moroni. "[J]ust coming out of the vision" and "over an hour" don't seem to match. To the devout who say the Angel Moroni's visit was entirely in the spiritual realm, or in Joseph's mind, and that is the reason none of his family could see the angel that night, what kind of a "dream" was it? Several of Joseph's associates believed that Joseph had visits from both Moroni and Nephi during the process of the Restoration George Q. Cannon in 1869, If you will read the history of the Church from the beginning, you will find that Joseph was visited by various angelic beings, but not one of them professed to give him the keys until John the Baptist came to him. Devout Mormons believe that Moroni, an angel from ancient America, physically appeared to Joseph three times on the night of September 21, 1823. It is impossible to determine the number of “interviews” Joseph had with Moroni, but twenty-two visits are often identified. Help the children memorize or review the ninth article of faith. God provided witnesses for metallic plates, that simply could have been left behind if there was a real need to verify their existence. What did the book contain? (Mormon 8:1, 4.) Isaiah 11. The Angel Moroni Visits Joseph Smith – printable teaching package. Elizabeth did not like the Geneva Bible or those associated with it, (Knox and Calvin). According to President George Q.Cannon, “[Joseph Smith] was visited constantly by angels. The end of the piece says that it is "by Thomas C. Joseph's written account of the Moroni visitation, and the paintings displayed by the Church, make it seem as if it was a tangible event that anyone in the room could see if they were there. How did Joseph’s father react when Joseph told him about Moroni? Was it a regular dream, a hallucination or a "vision" and how can we know? Purpose. Judging by the above, it would appear there would be little point in knowing anyway. It stands to reason that sometime during the night at least one of his family members would have perceived something going on within Joseph's bedroom. We believe that as honest Latter-day Saints, the truth should be told to avoid accusations of withholding information or deceiving anyone. Because we now have the gospel, most of our personal prayers are answered in other ways. The angel said that his name was Moroni and that he had once lived on earth as the last prophet of an ancient American people. The first and most obvious is; how could Joseph Smith have possibly remembered all of that; overnight, let alone fifteen years later? In his 1998 revised edition of 'Early Mormonism and the Magic World View" he makes some fascinating and convincing parallels between the timing of the alleged visitations and folk occult practices associated with conjuring deceased spirit guardians for the purpose of locating hidden treasure. None of Smith's known narratives of his First Vision were precise about dates: "the 16th year of my age," "I was about 14 years old," and "my fifteenth year." I shall send to you Elias, the prophet, before that the great day and horrible of the Lord come. See Dibble's account recorded in The Juvenile Instructor, 15 May, 1892. Regardless of whether either account is accurate, or which came first, we can infer that an account of an angelic visitor with a flaming sword was circulated in the Smith's vicinity. The LDS tour guides at the restored Smith home confirm this. Could there be other possible explanations? It was used in a period of time which bears no relationship to the time of the events written about, let alone to our current day. What. Explain that Moroni was the last of the Nephite prophets. After this third visit, he again ascended into heaven as before, and I was again left to ponder on the strangeness of what I had just experienced; when almost immediately after the heavenly messenger had ascended from me for the third time, the cock crowed, and I found that day was approaching, so that our interviews must have occupied the whole of that night. Many of them are credible and earnestly believe the events took place. In his 1882 account he said, "On a subsequent visit to Hiram, I arrived at Father Johnson's just as Joseph and Sidney were coming out of the vision alluded to in the Book of Doctrine and Covenants, in which mention is made of the three glories.". Jan 13, 2017 - The Angel Moroni Visits Joseph Smith - printable teaching package. Thus, surely angels would do the same and use terminology most familiar to the recipient. He helped plant and harvest the crops, clear trees from the land, and tap maple trees to get sap for syrup. (Quoted 2 verses quoted exactly). On 22 September 1823 sunrise occurred at 5:59 a.m. in this part of New York. So, "After musing some time on the conversation of the evening and the events which caused it" he was distracted when. For lo! I had not got on my way more than one mile and a half, before my team, which consisted of four oxen and a horse, in full speed, were instantly stopped as though hushed by a mighty hand; I unthinkingly bid them go on, but without effect; for at the same instant, a bright light appeared to overspread the horizon, and an Angel, or some supernatural Being, as I conceived, descended and stood erect in the air but a little distance before me, dressed in a long unfoiled robe, with a Flaming Sword in his hand. 4): "Astral spirits of men departed, which (if the party deceased was disturbed and troubled at his decease), do for many years, continue in the source of this world . The first published history gave even the hours: "On the evening of the 21st of September, 1823. Starting on page 141, Quinn writes: When comparing accounts of the 1820 [first] vision and the 1823 [Moroni] visions, both Mormons and non-Mormons have commented on the contrast in details. 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